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PINOT 10-19-2010 12:55 AM

BMW brakes???
 
Is there a platform of BMW brakes that could be considered a "big brake" upgrade to a R53.

I know in the VW world a lot of standard audi/ porsche parts get used a as VW mods. Is there anything like that for the MINI?


I'm looking to upgrade my front brakes (the stock brakes are just out of their league on the mountain roads... a fun and safety concern) and was thinking maybe a salvaged and then rebuilt BMW brake kit could be a effective and lower cost solution.

Let me know!

-Pinot

Rally 10-19-2010 01:00 AM

In terms of rotors, the bolt patterns won't match. BMW's are 5x120 while MINI's are 4x100.

Not sure on the calipers, but you'd have to make sure they would work on the MINI rotors. At that point you might as well upgrade to JCW calipers which are probably just as good.

Since you have an R53, look into upgrading to R56 MCS brakes. It's an upgrade for the first gen's and is equivalent to the Brakes used on R53 JCW cars.

It's so awesome that VAG parts are easily interchangeable. Unfortunately, MINI doesn't prescribe to that practice. They don't even like letting people interchange parts between MINI's. You'll find that things like grilles and stuff don't exactly transfer between the models.

PINOT 10-19-2010 01:33 AM

Actually the R56 upgrade sounds perfect.
I'll have to scrounge around and see if I can find a wrecked R56:D
Its something just like that I was looking for.

It's a shame that the BMW group doesn't have the same outlook as their german nemesis on comparatively similar parts to interchange throughout models.

OH well!

-Pinot

Rally 10-19-2010 01:42 AM

For the R56 swap, I think the only real difference is that you'll need new lines too because the fitting at the caliper end is different. Other than that it's bolt on I believe.

Drew 10-19-2010 02:48 AM

If you want to keep your cost down, a good set of pads will go a long way for street brakes. Honestly, a set of Carbotech street/track compound pads, stainless lines, and high-temp fluid is plenty to improve braking performance. Not that the R56 brakes aren't better... but you'll want better pads there too. Sometimes brake bling isn't beneficial. Most of it comes down to pad compound and weight of brake components.

ducks 10-19-2010 08:44 AM

And if the r56 S brakes aren't enough, you can upgrade to the r56 JCW brakes.

ColinGreene 10-22-2010 01:23 AM

So much for that its not interchangeable theory.
I have R56S brakes they seem to stop my rolling heap pretty well.
got them for like 300 then bought some lines.
Keep in mind the heat sheilds take some work to make it fit but nothing you cant do with some thinking and tools.
good luck.

professor 10-31-2010 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducks (Post 644601)
And if the r56 S brakes aren't enough, you can upgrade to the r56 JCW brakes.

yes ;)

Rally 10-31-2010 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColinGreene (Post 645282)
So much for that its not interchangeable theory.

Do you know of BMW parts that interchange with our cars? :confused:

professor 10-31-2010 04:44 PM

brake pad sensors ;)

imspencerwithanR53 10-31-2010 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rally (Post 647105)
Do you know of BMW parts that interchange with our cars? :confused:

He does. :P

ColinGreene 11-01-2010 09:31 PM

Rally, the R56 complete line works on the R53 hubs. no biggie thats what i ment.
The R56 JCW and the standard S brakes are both proven
like i said above i personally run the R56 S brakes with no modification except to the dust sheild and for me that was a personal thing. i only moved one hole anyway.
If your talking about stuff from the bmw line its self. such as the 3 5 6 or 7 series
I dont know if anyone runs those brakes. But that being said, i dont know why you would.
they are all ugly sliding caliper designs even the M cars. (Dissapointing)
To me the best looking and performing brake option for our cars period is the R56 JCW swap.
Though I would not keep them red.
if you need decent performance really theirs no need to look past what the R56 sliders provide

Rally 11-01-2010 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColinGreene (Post 647389)
Rally, the R56 complete line works on the R53 hubs. no biggie thats what i ment.
The R56 JCW and the standard S brakes are both proven

Well yah, I posted that option in my original post:P. I thought you meant you knew of some BMW calipers that would work like the m-series ones or something along those lines.

ColinGreene 11-01-2010 11:39 PM

nah not that i know of, but i dont really know why you would want them, theirs no real association with the m brand with those brakes other than those are freaken huge.
its just a boring slide caliper. I think mercedes is better at brakes (brembo)
Though the Z06 ones are pretty badass.

Rally 11-02-2010 12:07 AM

I'm not sure about that....the new m3 brakes are pretty widely accepted as being competent and their 60-0 numbers are right up there with the other cars in their class.

If they were an easy swap (as the OP was asking) like the R56 brakes are, I'm sure you'd see people doing it all the time.


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