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Old 11-04-2006, 11:26 AM
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Default Good-bye hydraulic brakes Hello Electric brakes!

No more bleeding or boiled fluid!


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Old 11-04-2006, 04:50 PM
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Yikes, it'll be awhile before I can trust an electrical connection to actuate my brakes! I know some newer Mercedes-Benzes experimented with brake by wire (computer-controlled braking, but still hydraulic from the electric actuator to the caliper), but that system had hydraulic failover in case the electrical stuff failed.
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Old 11-04-2006, 05:01 PM
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I don't trust deem electronic thingies either...........haha.......well Mercedes is more of a sensor that tells if your getting too close to the vehicle travling in front of you, it will then beging to apply the brakes for a coulpe seconds depending on your rate of speed.....it is then you take over, slowing you sled down!!!!!
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That's one variation on the system, but there is one that controls purely by wire unless it fails:

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Electro-hydraulic brake-by-wire systems still use conventional hydraulic brake calipers at each wheel, but pressure is applied by a computer-controlled high pressure pump and actuator solenoids. This is the approach used by Mercedes-Benz with their Bosch-built Sensotronic system.

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Old 11-04-2006, 05:13 PM
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That's one variation on the system, but there is one that controls purely by wire unless it fails:
That's some scary stuff..........like Irobot stuff......I'm aprehensive about all these driverless technologies that are starting to surface in the auto industry.........
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Old 11-04-2006, 05:16 PM
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The electric motors that push the pad onto the disc can also pull the pads away. Using a torque sensor, they can switch between pushing and pulling at an extremely high frequency, both controlling the braking force and keeping the wheels from locking up. This also means there’s no need for a conventional anti-lock braking system.

With each brake unit operating independently of the others, it also means the electronic stability control can be much more finely tuned.

An industry source said, “We recently ran a test involving two Audi A6 prototypes. One was fitted with conventional disc brakes, the other with the latest development of wedge brakes. In exercises that involved the cars braking from 62mph, the prototype with the wedge brakes regularly required less than half the distance to come to a complete standstill than the prototype with the standard brakes. The difference is nothing short of amazing.”
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I think this is cool! And imagine the gnarly (yes I am from the 80's) computer assist type performance thingies you could do!!!!

Brakes being what they are, I am sure that there are easy ways to develop safety systems for this type of brake.
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Old 11-04-2006, 05:18 PM
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I think this is cool! And imagine the gnarly (yes I am from the 80's) computer assist type performance thingies you could do!!!!

Brakes being what they are, I am sure that there are easy ways to develop safety systems for this type of brake.
Yeah, like maybe have the motors work against some light spring pressure, so in case of a total electronic failure, the car will lightly apply braking force, bringing the car to a gradual, and hopefully safe, stop.
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That's some scary stuff..........like Irobot stuff......I'm aprehensive about all these driverless technologies that are starting to surface in the auto industry.........
Here's some more irobot stuff:

http://www.motoringunderground.com/f...1716#post81716
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the name plate on that caliper is the same ecu in Bruce... not everyone got that VDO but it seems to have made it harder for me to get "chipped"

i don't know if i'm ready today for that upgrade but i'm sure it'll be all good in a couple of years. afterall, many items in our everyday life are sadly computer controlled and have been for years...

i'm looking forward to this... especially if it can cut you're stopping distance in half?! sheeeeit... go faster, stop faster!
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That's some scary stuff..........like Irobot stuff......I'm aprehensive about all these driverless technologies that are starting to surface in the auto industry.........
Yup! I don't like all this new fangled technology thats making everyone into lazy drivers.
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I'm with you on that one. It scares me to think that there will be even more mindless drivers out there. Even more idiots putting on make-up, talking on cell phones, shaving, eating, reading, and whatever else I've seen people doing. Sends cold chills up my spine.
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Ok, perhaps this is way off subject, but the best thing I EVER did for my mountain bike was to get rid of the hydraulic brakes. What a nightmare. I need to nab a set of electronic brakes for my MB though... Mmmm technology...
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