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Old 11-29-2005, 06:21 PM
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i dont even have any fade problems with my stock brakes with fluid and lines...but my car is a wee laddy
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:23 PM
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Yeah, most of the fade comes from the low boiling point of the stock fluid. Some of it does come from the pad, though.
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:45 PM
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no they let the gasses vent under hard driving, making it cooler and less prone to fade
That is what they tell me, but everything I can find that seems even remotely reliable (Wilwood and Baer are 2) indicates that these are throwbacks to the days of aesbestos and other older compounds that tended to release a lot of gas when heated. They both offer drilled and slotted rotors for the cosmetics only.

" Rotors are drilled to reduce rotating weight, an issue near and dear to racers searching for ways to minimize unsprung weight. Drilling diminishes a rotor's durability and cooling capacity.
Slots or grooves in rotor faces are partly a carryover from the days of asbestos pads. Asbestos and other organic pads were prone to "glazing" and the slots tended to help "scrape or de-glaze" them. Drilling and slotting rotors has become popular in street applications for their pure aesthetic value. Wilwood has a large selection of drilled and slotted rotors for a wide range of applications."
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:11 PM
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I've heard mixed reactions to Hawks, haven't heard much about Wilwood pads, but damn, I love me some Ferodo DS2500.
Ivan, will these pads fit stock calipers?
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:19 PM
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Ivan, will these pads fit stock calipers?
Yes, the ferodos will fit stock setups
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:35 PM
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*nod* They make Ferodo DS2500 (street/trackday pad) and DS3000 (race pad) for the stock MINI calipers. I believe the DS3000's are only available for the front calipers, so it's best to run DS2500 rears in combination with them.
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:37 PM
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You know what.... I might just put off the bbk for now, and get the lines and pads and fluid. that sounds like a good idea. hehe yeah a damn good idea, Im wanting my suspension first anyway. and the lines,fluid,pads are a quick cheaper way to improve my braking. YIPEEEEE
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:33 PM
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Have you ever seen the stoptech stage 2 kit? I think this is the one that I'll eventually be going with (unless someone here proves to me that this set up sucks ). It seems like a really good deal. For under $600 you get stock sized slotted stoptech rotors, stopteck ss brake lines, Axxis ultimate pads and 3 bottles of motul rbf600 fluid. Does anyone know anything about this kit?
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:56 PM
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Have you ever seen the stoptech stage 2 kit? I think this is the one that I'll eventually be going with (unless someone here proves to me that this set up sucks ). It seems like a really good deal. For under $600 you get stock sized slotted stoptech rotors, stopteck ss brake lines, Axxis ultimate pads and 3 bottles of motul rbf600 fluid. Does anyone know anything about this kit?
Well, it's a good price if you're really interested in slotted rotors. The performance difference between slotted and non-slotted is somewhat questionable, but they sure do look cool.

Not sure why they give you 3 bottles of brake fluid, considering the system really only takes a bottle and a half to fill and bleed.
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Old 12-08-2005, 09:59 PM
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Or you could just get the stage 1 kit. It's everything in the stage 2 minus the rotors and it's only $320. Pretty good, no?
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:06 PM
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OH yeah you can also add $105 and switch the axxiss pads for some ferodo ds2500's. If you get them from eurostyleseast.com there is also free shipping.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:10 PM
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Stage 1 + Ferodos would be tasty. It's still not much of a deal, though. Here's the prices I've found:

Ferodo DS2500 pads: $220
ATE Super Blue fluid: $10
Ireland Engineering lines: $78

Total: $308
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:15 PM
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Yeah but......but...you get three bottles of fluid . That should make up for the other $120 right? OH well, I tried.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:17 PM
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Yeah but......but...you get three bottles of fluid . That should make up for the other $120 right? OH well, I tried.
I can make a kit for you and sell it to you as a "Stage 1 Kit" for $400 if it'll make you feel any better!
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:20 PM
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Re...re..really? You..you mean it? For me?*tears up*:p
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