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Old 12-11-2006, 10:44 PM
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I vote for the passport for first warning..based on a trip I took where a v1 was in the convoy. Maybe it's all just luck lol.

Both are GREAT and mine has saved my lil bum a few times
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Old 12-11-2006, 11:38 PM
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do you mean Ka? x band with the v1's is fairly standard, I haven't seen a police officer use it here in the midwest in a very very long time.
Come on down to IL, the town next to me has at elast one car with it, freaked me out the first time I ever heard the X band go so crazy.
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:33 AM
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Someone mentioned on another forum I was reading that Escort will be out with a new model in 2007. Anybody know anything about this one?
I wonder if the older models will be going on sale?
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Definitely wait until after Christmas. I received a Christmas promo e-mail yesterday but it looked like nothing was marked down. Just a "Hey - look what we have for you" kinda' thing.

I'll throw a message up if I hear anything. When Escort does go on sale it's usually worthwhile. I saved $50 buying my GTimer during one of their sales events. If I remember correctly the x50 units were at least $20 off.
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Old 12-12-2006, 03:40 PM
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Their LIDAR unit looks neat, illegal in most states, but still cool...
LIDAR a scrambler? Why's it illegal?
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Old 12-12-2006, 04:08 PM
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Because the cops fussed when they arrived on the market, that's the primary reason many states banned them. The LIDAR gun is a fantastic revenue generator and folks want to ensure it stays that way.

The reason cited though is typically the fact that the LIDAR detector units are transceivers. The units actually transmit a signal to scramble vs. just receiving the signal like a radar detector does.

Personally I hate the idea of a cop blazing a laser across my windshield. While I suspect the laser in a LIDAR unit is deemed "safe" at X distance, I still don't feel warm & fuzzy about staring down the beam of one. Hell, if I pointed a laser pointer at a police officer I'd go to jail... So why as a citizen should be okay with a police officer pointing a laser right my face (and I don't buy the argument of "but they point the beam at your front fascia" - that's bs, the windshield is far too prime of a target).

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Old 12-12-2006, 11:51 PM
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Humm can said device be hidden in the grill - of a MINI per say?
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Yes, as far as I know all of the LIDAR scramblers require external exposure for the sending units. The Escort setup has two forward and one rear transceivers plus the head unit to tell you what is going on. It looks like they integrate with the Passport detectors to provide a common interface if desired.

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If they can't see it - it doesn't exist right?!?!
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Fair enough in my book!

I suspect the tattle-tale sign occurs when the officer's LIDAR gun wigs out...

I've yet to read exactly what happens (I suspect the LIDAR gun will simply give an error or ask for calibration) when a scrambler performs its voodoo. And I haven't read about any detector detectors for LIDAR (like what they have for regular radar detectors).

So if you're passing by an officer and you are the only car clocked that gives a error I bet you'll attract some attention. Maybe the key is to keep some "buddies" around at all times... Safety in numbers.
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:33 AM
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From what I've read about those on NAM that use em. they have them well hidden, then as soon as the y get detected it's slam the brakes on while shutting the jammer off and not to rasie suspicions. But I heard that as a result of Laser beign sanctioned by the FDA that they were indeed legal, something worth checking up on.
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So if you're passing by an officer and you are the only car clocked that gives a error I bet you'll attract some attention. Maybe the key is to keep some "buddies" around at all times... Safety in numbers.
"But officer its a MINI- how fast could it possibly go?"
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Old 12-13-2006, 11:21 PM
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"But officer its a MINI- how fast could it possibly go?"
Replace "MINI" with the phrase "tiny hatchback" or just dive down into the subway system and utilize the aquaducts
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