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Old 03-21-2007, 06:08 PM
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you can still autoX, you just won't be as "competitive"...
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Does anyone know a ruff cost of doing a full bagged setup?
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Kits I found were anywhere from $2.5 - 4K And those were already done up for a car. With ours you'd have to go nearly fully custom for mounting so I'd expect more.
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I think it would be awesome to bag a classic mini
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I think it would be awesome to bag a classic mini
they make lots of kits for the classic....and there is TONS of room in those cars
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Has anyone here ever driver a bagged car, Im interested in this but I dont want to lose all my cornering ability. Looking around the web I have seen two styles of air ride, the rubber diaphragm style and a piston style that looks more or less the same as traditional shock. I would think that these piston style parts would provide better handling than the diaphragms. This is my very very basic understanding of how air ride works
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a pancake tank that fits in the spare tire location of most compact and full size cars.

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20"x12"x7" in metal case has compressor, valves, guages, wirekit... all you have to do is run airline to the bags, mount/wire guages, and add power
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a pancake tank that fits in the spare tire location of most compact and full size cars.

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20"x12"x7" in metal case has compressor, valves, guages, wirekit... all you have to do is run airline to the bags, mount/wire guages, and add power
So who here is gonna break the ground here and get this done??? Rally? Konky? Kal? Somebody in m|u has got to get this done. I'd love to, but my money tree is becoming tapped out.

As far as I can tell, besides the parts shown above you'd need to relocate the battery. I think one of these compact batteries might fit in the left rear compartment:
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Deka Lightweight Battery $90.77

Exactly the same as the Braille Lightweight Battery with a different label. Includes terminals.


The “Braille” battery (11.5 lb) is designed for rally racing, but is equally suited to daily use. There is no easier way to drop 25 or more pounds from your MINI. Furthermore, it is far stronger, is lighter and smaller than any other unit developed specifically for automobile use.

Remove that weight and the improvements in handling and braking will become immediately obvious. These drycell units have true deepcycle charge capability, meaning that they can be heavily discharged and recharged repeatedly without weakening over time. This is a significant advantage over other lightweight batteries (especially on the street). Consistency and reliability are thusly assured.

Rival batteries come nowhere close to the cranking power of the Braille unit. With a whopping 360 cold cranking amps available, they outgun the typical competition's 260CCA by almost 40%. In terms of amp/hours (the size of the electrical "gas tank"), batteries with equivalent capacity weigh 20% - 30% more. Thus, there is no better blend of high power, large capacity, and light weight.
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rally has a cooper... battery is up front- no need to relocate.
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rally has a cooper... battery is up front- no need to relocate.
Uh...yea. Good point.

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Look into some euro companies about a good kit for the MINI. I have seen some in PVW and I will run a search today. I have been looking into the Air Ride Technologies kit, for my 69 camaro, for sometime and very impressed with them. They have put alot of time and investment into making them handle the twistes of a road course. Horsepower TV on spike has gone out and tested them at the track on all types of cars and they gave it good reviews. You could call Air Ride and see if they have other info.
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Were did you find this, Im really curious about doing this. My cooper could fit that air tank underneith pretty easily.
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:01 PM
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chassis tech. i've order stuff from them before. they're alright. that was kinda hard to find online, but if you call and explain i'm sure they can help you out.

you should do it... be the first mini with a FBSS setup... hot!
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I wonder what the size of the pancake tank is? I wouldnt mind rocking one of these integrated into the boot

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and then hook it up to a digital system so that you could monitor everything and watch for leaks etc

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The only problem is finding actual bags to fit where we need them to fit
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So I got bored and curious and here is what I came up with. I made basic card board mock up's of that combo box and pancake tank that dark06mcs posted.

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The tank hangs alittle low, I know my mock up doesnt account for the curve of the real tank but still thats alittle low.

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I put the compressor and all that stuff in the void from the rear seat

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even putting the tank up with everything else doesnt look that bad, put a cover over it and it doesnt take up much more room than folding down the rear seats

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That combo box is also backseat approved
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