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Old 07-18-2010, 11:10 PM
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Default Seat brackets: Wedge vs. Speedware?

Anyone have any thoughts on relative pros and cons of these two brackets in an R53?

I had a Wedge before and thought is was ok, but put the seat up a little too high for me and had some fitment issues on the seat belt mount point. Thinking I might try Speedware this time, but no data on those except that they build the brackets that Sparco USA sells, so quality must be decent.

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Old 07-18-2010, 11:42 PM
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what seat are you running?
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I have the speedware mounts for my Recaro's and the quality is pretty good. The only issue I had is that the holes for the seat bracket and the holes for the floor mount didn't line up, so it was a pain to tighten them down. I also used washers to make the seats sit a little bit higher for me.

All in all I like them though.
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Old 07-19-2010, 02:36 AM
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Thanks xnot. I remember reading a post from someone who thought the Speedwares ended up low.

@Lil' I ran a Sparco Evo on the Wedge for a few years and just picked up a sweet Recaro Style on ebay. Adjustable bolsters and lumbar FTW!
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Old 07-21-2010, 08:29 PM
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if you want to know another good place to buy some brackets check out a place called wedge engineering out in long beach california. here is their link: http://www.wedgeengineering.net/ they make any bracket and they are good with pricing, i got some for my recaro cs's
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Thanks for the feedback. So I just received the bracket and am not getting how the OEM seatbelt mount connects. The Wedge had exactly the same mounting approach as the stock seat with two pins, one threaded for a bolt. This one just has a tab with a hole. How did you connect the female seatbelt mount to the bracket?

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Old 07-21-2010, 10:55 PM
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i had the same problem, you got to kinda drill the inside wall of the metal circle to make it a little bigger, this will make them fit. pm me and send me your number or something, its easier to explain over the phone lol
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Thanks mang. I'll let you know if I need some help.
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Ok, so here is what the seatbelt mount on the Speedware bracket looks like.

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The one on the Wedge and on the stock seat is totally different. There is a large pin with a threaded hole in the center and a smaller pin forward of this. Here is the seatbelt mount:

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The seatbelt mount (#8) has a hole in it that slides over the pin, and then a bolt (#9) threads into the hole to hold it on. So I was able to remove the bolt from the stock seat, slip off the seat belt mount, pop the mount onto the pin on the Wedge, and re-use the same bolt to hold it on. The smaller pin forward fit into a hole in the front end of the seatbelt mount to keep it from rotating when the explosive tensioner fired. Again, this second pin was on both the stock seat and the Wedge, but not on the Speedware.

So shadow87, is this what your Speedware seatbelt mount looked like? Just trying to figure out if they effed up in building my bracket.

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alright you see where number 8 is pointing to? that circle opening is what i was talking about, you got to drummel or shave the inside of the circle to make it just a little bit bigger opening and then just slap that on the seat bracket. thats what i did. hope that helps man lol just make sure you put on the seat belt attachment on the seat before you install the actual seat cause its a pain to put it on when the seat is installed
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Old 07-22-2010, 11:13 PM
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Thanks. Yeah, I know exactly what you are talking about. I had to do that when I installed the Wedge bracket because the pin on the bracket that #8 slid onto was a little too large.

But if you look at the first pic of my Speedware bracket you can see that there is no pin at all. Just a hole. On yours, was there a pin sticking out of the bracket that you slid #8 onto? Were you able to attach it using the same bolt (#9)?

I think they screwed up the build of mine and welded on the wrong mount.
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yea i had a pin sticking out on mine and i had to use the bolt it came with, i couldnt use the stock bolt. i think they messed up your bracket too, check with them on it and make sure
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Thanks a lot. So yours came with a bolt? No hardware at all with mine. They definitely screwed it up. I think I'm just going to return it and start over.
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Old 07-23-2010, 03:19 AM
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yea i got a bolt, dude check out the link i posted earlier in this thread. check them out, they are pretty good
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