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Old 02-27-2012, 11:28 PM
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Ok im looking at getting a camshaft sooner than later. I was looking at getting the crower ns1, since i hear its cheaper and makes great power.. I was also looking at the RMW street cam but im not sure if itll really help me if my engine is built around it.. Ive noticed alot of their seems great to use but im not sure if i would have to build my head around it.. Any suggestions?
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Old 02-27-2012, 11:51 PM
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I have had the Newman (RMW) and now the NS1. The Newman was good power, would of been better if tuned. But it also screwed with my DME and caused the engine to flood out at idle.

The NS1 is friggin great so far. Smooth powerband and a much happier engine so far.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:19 AM
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I have had the NS2 since 09 and have loved it, but cant really compare to anything else
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:25 AM
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I have had A Rmw Street, Race and Big daddy race.
For avg drivers the street is more than enough.
When chase drove my car, it had a race.
The race will need a tune. if you are local to Southern california thats easy enough to do.
If not you will need to buy a tune box to get the flash to run it properly as the idle speed will need to be bumped.
Every once in a while folks have trouble with the street cams but in my experience its somewhat rare.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:30 AM
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Yea I was one of those rare times the RMW street cam effected. Not sure why.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:33 AM
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yeah, like last year a guy had one put in at the dragon and had a issue with it. Good thing was Newman took it back and sent him out a new one. Solved his problem.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:49 AM
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Is there any rule of thumb that matches a cam to other mods with these engines? I know with DSMs, 264/272 or 272/272 combos are better for smaller turbo, 280s for big boy stuff (obviously oversimplified here).
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Old 02-28-2012, 01:03 AM
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Not really, on these cars its more about what you want your power band to be like. The stock blower really couldn't care less.
only thing is with some of the rmw race cams the idle will need to be changed.
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Old 02-28-2012, 02:30 AM
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This is all good info and timing because I am about to order the NS1 cam.
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Old 02-28-2012, 04:11 AM
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I ran an NS1 in my MINI since about the end of 07.

Some good information posted here. It is really a very hard decision anymore with regards to camshaft selection. As I have said many times there is no one cam that serves all the needs. So you must think of a few things when deciding your choice of camshaft to use in your MINI.




1) The most often engine speed you operate your MINI

2) What mods you have currently and if you plan on any changes in the near future (not a year from now) that may effect the camshaft choice.

4) required changes if any to make the camshaft work correctly

5) Quality of end product offered

6) Price range

7) After purchase support

8) And what you expect ultimately to get out of your engine as a total package

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Old 02-28-2012, 03:24 PM
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The same main question waa posted over on NAM, and to me in a PM, after the problems I had and the research I did, here's my $.02 from over there.

9/10 it's not the cam it's the individual ECU, for reasons that have yet to be determined, some ECUs just don't like some Cams, there is usually no rhyme or reason to it, you could most likely put that"exact" Newman in a different car and it would react differently, no-one has really figured out why or when yet, but the '05's and later seem to be slightly more tempermental, the only thing that seems to be consistant are the problems that you may have, usually miss-fires & loss of compression due to over fueling,honestly the only thing I've found is you just have to try and see what happens.

Personally on reputation alone you would have to give the nod to anything Crower would be involved with, and I say that even after having problems with "My Car" and my NS2.

When I did all of my resarch because of my problems the only thing I really wasn't able to determine was wheather or not an Adjustable Cam Gear would have any effect on a troublesome Cam / ECU combination or not, I may experiment with that over the summer since I'm planning to get an ACG anyway, if I do I'll def. report my findings.

Figured I might as well put it here too.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:17 PM
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NS1 works well for my car. (15% pulley, One Ball exhaust, OBX header, MTH Tune.) Really "woke up" the mid range without sacrificing anything in the lower RPM range. Probably would be even better with bigger injectors and a custom tune.

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Old 02-28-2012, 05:18 PM
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Thanks a lot for all the input
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:19 PM
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Thanks a lot for all the input, kinda looking toward the cower still, would like to try rmw parts but not sure if I would have to spends millions of dollars for head porting and machining just to fit it
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Yes... the NS1 and you will never look back.... 'cept to see the other drivers!! LOL

The NS1 works well with the OEM Head and Tune... of course it gets better with more mods ( head and tune) but you will NOT be un happy!! Rocking..

Just me..............................

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