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Old 08-29-2006, 12:20 PM
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Default dynamic stability control...

sometimes i forget to turn it off...
how many of you turn it off/leave it on when driving?

i don't mean commuting, im talking about "spirited" driving...

personally, im not of the level of many, im just a curious noob wanting to know how long to hold on...

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Old 08-29-2006, 12:36 PM
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I'm apparently a strange case. I never turn the DSC off on public roads. When autocrossing, I always turn it off - there's such a slim chance that something will go wrong and I'll run into something.

On the track, I usually leave it on for my first couple of laps of the day, just in case. At a new track, I leave it on longer. If it's raining, I turn it back on a for a few laps just in case.

Once I get to the point where I get through a couple of laps with the DSC only acting at times that I know it is going to (and I don't want it to), I'll turn it off.

You can still throw a Cooper around pretty well with the DSC on. I guess things might be a little different on an MCS.
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Old 08-29-2006, 02:04 PM
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My MC doesn't have DSC and ASC+T isn't available on the MC, so there's nothing to turn off.
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Old 08-29-2006, 02:21 PM
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I forgot to turn off DSC at an autocross for one lap

DSC Lap: 1:20
non-DSC lap: 55 seconds
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Old 08-29-2006, 02:36 PM
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I leave it on all the time.

As a noob what are the benefits of turning it off?
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Old 08-29-2006, 02:56 PM
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I turn it off everytime I start up the car, but I have ASC and it's garbage! (Anytime I lose traction, the ASC cuts the engine power in half, and I'd rather control the wheel spin myself)
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Old 08-29-2006, 03:04 PM
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I only turn it off when I want to REALLY get on it and I'm on roads I know very well. On new roads or particularly on spirited club runs and stuff I always leave it on. I've seen 2 people spin out on these and there just isn't any reason to turn it off when you're not being timed.

griff - turning it off will decrease lap times when racing... basically the DSC and ASC-T slow the car down when wheel slip is detected or when the car slides. In Auto-x you kind of want the rear to come around a bit and you're going to spin the tires a bit also. If I know the road I'm on and go around a very tight corner and the wheel starts slipping and giving me a bit of understeer I know what's going to happen and have already accounted for that. the car doesn't know that and slows the wheels down so I don't slide at all. that will take a few mph off when I want to come out of the corner hot and is kind of a killjoy too.

I contemplated not getting DSC because when I ordered my car I fully planned to be racing most weekends (before the GF went back to nursing school) but on the MCS you get ASC-T automatically... which is the part that slows the wheels during wheel slip. the DSC applies braking force to individual wheels as needed when the car detects it is spinning or sliding. If I was gonna get stuck with ASC-T then DSC is the good part and what I wanted. now if I could only turn off just the ASC... but that's another story
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Old 08-29-2006, 03:14 PM
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Thatnks for the explanation. I thought that was what it was but wasn't 100% sure.
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Old 08-29-2006, 04:13 PM
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I turn it off at the drag strip since it will cut the gas off the line and again from 1st to 2nd and adds about 2 seconds to my time. I leave it on at the track. I haven't yet autocrossed it but I'd turn it off.

I also turn it off when I know I need to make a move like making a left from a stand still in traffic. I can deal with a little wheel spin much faster than waiting for the car to recover from DSC cutting the fuel... important when traffic is coming at you at 50 mph. I turn it back on after I'm down the road.
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I often turn the DSC off, even for normal 'around town' driving. With it turned on it causes the car the bog down at the slightest hint of wheel spin. It doesn't work well with the factory LSD on my car; the DSC doesn't allow for the LSD to do its job of finding traction. Now for higher speed stuff, especially when the road is not 100% dry, I leave the DSC on...

And DSC is horrible in snow, bog bog bog bog bog bog
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And DSC is horrible in snow, bog bog bog bog bog bog
true story...
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Old 08-29-2006, 04:54 PM
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And DSC is horrible in snow, bog bog bog bog bog bog
Snow tires.

Yeah, the traction control part of DSC can make getting moving in snow tough, but once you are moving the rest of the DSC functions are great.

When my Cooper was new and I was testing things out, I purposely came to a complete stop on a snow covered uphill driveway then tried to get moving again. The traction control tried its hardest to find some grip, and I did inch up the hill for a few feet, then it stalled the engine.
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Could this be the reason I sometomes have trouble launching my car? My car seems to bog down if I'm trying to leave a stop light on a hill...
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DSC and ASC = bad.... both are obscenely obtrusive and take away from driving your car. If it wasn't so obtrustive more people wouldnt turn it off.

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Could this be the reason I sometomes have trouble launching my car? My car seems to bog down if I'm trying to leave a stop light on a hill...
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