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Old 05-22-2012, 02:56 PM
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This is the fitment we're looking for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5l_F4o8W2k




this is awesome but I am sad its not first gen.

safe to assume that if this take off, a first gen arch will soon follow?
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I have some extra cooper s front bumper flares i might try experimenting with. but i just can't bring myself to cut up brand new trim
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I seriously doubt anyone has ever or will ever become a millionaire selling MINI mods


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I'll have some. Make sure when do to the rear arches you don't follow the rear lines as the critical point is not at the top of the arch but a few inches back as the body curves inwards. You'll need to add the most room there.

This is the fitment we're looking for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5l_F4o8W2k
Probably won't be able to guarantee that fitment! Haha... We'd have to make slightly different arches based on how many miles were on each tire

Anyway, great input, Ducks! This is the kind of input that will make the product better and streamline the process. I'll need to figure out exactly where that 'first rubbing' point is.

That leads me to a couple more questions:

-Does the front rubbing occur in the center of the arch?

-I wonder how much the level of negative camber, both front and rear, affects the point at which rubbing occurs?

-Any suggestions for a rubbing test wheel. For instance, I'm sure I could have a set of custom CCWs made to test rubbing/fit with the stock and new arches, but any suggestions for a cheaper, easily-sourced wheel/tire combo for testing?
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this is awesome but I am sad its not first gen.

safe to assume that if this take off, a first gen arch will soon follow?
I'm focusing on 2nd Gen now, but yes, if it is feasible and works out, I would look at making some for 1st (and 3rd) gen cars in the future.


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I have some extra cooper s front bumper flares i might try experimenting with. but i just can't bring myself to cut up brand new trim
It definitely feels weird to take a brand new arch out of the package and cut it up!
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Probably won't be able to guarantee that fitment! Haha... We'd have to make slightly different arches based on how many miles were on each tire

Anyway, great input, Ducks! This is the kind of input that will make the product better and streamline the process. I'll need to figure out exactly where that 'first rubbing' point is.

That leads me to a couple more questions:

-Does the front rubbing occur in the center of the arch?

-I wonder how much the level of negative camber, both front and rear, affects the point at which rubbing occurs?

-Any suggestions for a rubbing test wheel. For instance, I'm sure I could have a set of custom CCWs made to test rubbing/fit with the stock and new arches, but any suggestions for a cheaper, easily-sourced wheel/tire combo for testing?
white paint marker the tire's edge (closest to where you suspect it to rub) and roll a few feet. the paint should rub off the tire and leave some on the flare. marking the rub point. (me and my dad use to use this trick on our rock crawlers)
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Probably won't be able to guarantee that fitment! Haha... We'd have to make slightly different arches based on how many miles were on each tire

Anyway, great input, Ducks! This is the kind of input that will make the product better and streamline the process. I'll need to figure out exactly where that 'first rubbing' point is.

That leads me to a couple more questions:

-Does the front rubbing occur in the center of the arch?

-I wonder how much the level of negative camber, both front and rear, affects the point at which rubbing occurs?

-Any suggestions for a rubbing test wheel. For instance, I'm sure I could have a set of custom CCWs made to test rubbing/fit with the stock and new arches, but any suggestions for a cheaper, easily-sourced wheel/tire combo for testing?
I'll make some pics and point out the critical area's
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I'm focusing on 2nd Gen now, but yes, if it is feasible and works out, I would look at making some for 1st (and 3rd) gen cars in the future.



This would be a dream come true. I would so buy a set!
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This is the fitment we're looking for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5l_F4o8W2k
Lol what the hell? Is that how all 964s are? The ratio of camber curve to actual suspension travel is retarded. There's more camber change than actual suspension travel. I don't think you could get that kind of camber curve if you shortened MINI arms all the way in, lol.
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Blaine go for it. I will be one of your first customers. I saw it at the Dragon and loved it. Mabe not CF but I would love plastic.
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This is something that has been looked for going on ten years now . It would be great to see it become reality but before you spend time and money I wold look into the costs of four injection molds just to see what lies ahead financially.

Personally I think keeping the additions in the 3/4 range is a good idea.

Business wise the r53 is a much larger market at this time .

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Business wise the r53 is a much larger market at this time .
It's also 10 molds rather than 4

In all reality, fiberglass is probably the most "Reasonable" route. It's the route MHW took back in 2003 and it would have worked had the market been more mature(larger and more modification based) and they had a quality demo car to display it on (rather than one running bull bars).
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Business wise the r50 is a much larger market at this time .

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white paint marker the tire's edge (closest to where you suspect it to rub) and roll a few feet. the paint should rub off the tire and leave some on the flare. marking the rub point. (me and my dad use to use this trick on our rock crawlers)
Good idea... Now all I need is a suspension and wheel/tire setup that rubs


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I'll make some pics and point out the critical area's
That would be awesome! Thanks!


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Blaine go for it. I will be one of your first customers. I saw it at the Dragon and loved it. Mabe not CF but I would love plastic.
Glad you were able to see it. I wasn't sure if anyone even noticed.


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This is something that has been looked for going on ten years now . It would be great to see it become reality but before you spend time and money I wold look into the costs of four injection molds just to see what lies ahead financially.

Personally I think keeping the additions in the 3/4 range is a good idea.

Business wise the r53 is a much larger market at this time .

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Thanks for the input, Randy. I definitely need to start getting quotes for design and molds to see if it's even remotely feasible. Hopefully the cost has come down significantly since it was first investigated 10 years ago!
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Good idea... Now all I need is a suspension and wheel/tire setup that rubs
You know...my adjustable setup would allow us to test it at various heights if you wanna send me 4 free arches

I'm not sure my setup would even remotely rub if the arches were 3/4 wider though haha
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Good idea... Now all I need is a suspension and wheel/tire setup that rubs




That would be awesome! Thanks!




Glad you were able to see it. I wasn't sure if anyone even noticed.




Thanks for the input, Randy. I definitely need to start getting quotes for design and molds to see if it's even remotely feasible. Hopefully the cost has come down significantly since it was first investigated 10 years ago!
I am pulling for you but I don't want to see you waste your time and energy for nothing.

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