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Old 11-18-2013, 03:22 PM
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Old 11-18-2013, 03:24 PM
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Personally, I love the ass end and overall proportions, except for the too long nose/front overhang. It looks more like an Audi Avant now which is a good thing IMO.
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http://www.autoblog.com/photos/mini-...photo-1571365/

This looks like a great platform for MINI. It's a wagon... and even with all of the camo it looks great! A simpler front end than the F56 and you've got a major winner in my book!
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Look at that high raked beltline! They killed it with that one. That could look phenomenal.

I'm not up on my 3rd gen information....when would the new clubmans come out here in the US?
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I'm not up on my 3rd gen information....when would the new clubmans come out here in the US?
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The 2nd generation MINI Clubman

Where the F55 will have four normal forward hinged doors, the F54 Clubman will make due with one or (more likely) two suicide doors like the current car. We also believe it’ll have more of a sleek shooting-brake look
•Debut: Fall 2015
•European Launch: Fall 2015
•North American Launch: Early 2016
http://www.motoringfile.com/2013/11/...release-dates/
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Look at that high raked beltline! They killed it with that one. That could look phenomenal.
Blame that one and the overall front end dimensions on the stupid EU pedestrian safety regulatins and not on the MINI design team.
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Blame that one and the overall front end dimensions on the stupid EU pedestrian safety regulatins and not on the MINI design team.
I was saying it's a good thing. I love the high belt line. It gives it a meaty chopped-top look

I'll give you a call back soon to catch up....crazy day(s) at work this week.
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Spied: The F54 Next-Gen Clubman Gets Caught Winter Testing
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As previously reported here on MotoringFile, the next Clubman will be a larger car than today, sharing its footprint with the next generation Countryman and Paceman. As the Countryman gets more “soft road” focused, the Clubman will be that slightly larger MINI super wagon that so many MINI fans have been hoping for.
http://www.motoringfile.com/2014/01/...inter-testing/

Pics here: http://www.gmotors.co.uk/news/2015-m...gation-screen/
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Good info in the Motoringfile article comments:

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Nathaniel Salzman Mod Don Hopings • 7 hours ago −
The reason is AWD. With the 4-door version of the hardtop hatch coming as the F55, then a small Clubman is pretty redundant. In the larger package, it'll likely have the ALL4 system available, which for me, makes it really appealing — especially as I look out the window and watch the snow come down.
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BimmerFile_Michael Mod Nathaniel Salzman • 5 hours ago −
It is also lower to the ground by design and will be a "wagon" rather than "SAV". There is a rumored new version of All4 with vectoring underneath as well- which is great for snow and performance. One thing BMW has learned is that thanks to Suburu and Audi dumping boat loads on AWD ads is that customers now want it and will pay a premium- basically every BMW is now offered in AWD- due to packaging MINI is not in the same boat.

Having seen the F54 in the flesh (with less camo than pictured) I can attest that it is much sportier than anything else in that market place. Unless they mess some of the finite details up it will be very different from the current car, the 5 door hatch and the Countryman- I honestly think that if MINI fans truly want the best handling and most practical product the new clubby is the answer.
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Much better proportions IMO. More of an Audi Avant look. A pretty fair chance this will be my next MINI especially if I can grab it in AWD.
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The front overhang looks way way less awkward with the longer rear end....and that roof line is awesome.
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Well Hans.... Looks like we need to work on the aerodynamics at the rear......

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