Camber, Camber, Camber...

[simplygriff]

I'm planning on getting some coilovers (KW v1's) soon and I'm thinking about what I gotta do for front and rear camber. I've been looking at the H-Sport vs. Helix front plates as well as the H-Sport vs. Helix control arms. Anyone know any major differences between these? My car will be street only so I prefer quiet and streetable. I've heard some control arms can be squeaky and I'm trying to avoid that. Any help or suggestions would be great. Thanks in advance!
-G

[Slow Paul]

I have the Helix plates and Helix arms. No weird noises coming from anywhere on my Cooper. As for differences between the plates I dunno, but I can attest to the quality of teh helix plates, they're beefy as all get out!!!

[Adam]

I think the main difference between the Helix and the HSports is the color.

[Slow Paul]

Blue or black!

[iDiaz]

I would go for the H-Sport camber plates. I have the Helix (back when they were RDR), and the bearing assembly is tall as hell. As a result, you will either raise your ride height up front (if you have springs), or lose a bunch of suspension stroke (if you have coilovers). Donno if they've changed this or not, but that's how mine are.

[simplygriff]

Hmmm... That's good to know Ivan. Paul did you have any issues with that with your Helix's?
-G

[Slow Paul]

They rasied my car up a hair, nothing noticable, my dad measured before and after. it wasn't even close to 1/4 inch. I also don't feel like I've lost any suspension stroke. So I guess they've fixed the problem that you had/have Ivan.

[iDiaz]

Originally Posted by R50 Paul

They rasied my car up a hair, nothing noticable, my dad measured before and after. it wasn't even close to 1/4 inch. I also don't feel like I've lost any suspension stroke. So I guess they've fixed the problem that you had/have Ivan.

Ahh, really? Damn. I lost like 1/2".

[cooldaddy]

that's something I'm concerned about as well. Rally mentioned that Ireland engineering has 2 camber plate options, one without the urethane bearing creating some xtra suspension travel, but it will be too rough on for street use. Is there anything "in between"?

Originally Posted by iDiaz

Ahh, really? Damn. I lost like 1/2".

[Slow Paul]

Yeah you can hardly tell. I snaped some pic just now at work of my sexy camber, I'll post them up tonight at home. my car wasn't raised much at all.

[glnr13]

new school hsports here, no problems

[simplygriff]

I'd love some more opinions but it's starting to sound like 6 of 1 and a half dozen of the other... Might just come down to price or looks...
-G

[Adam]

I have HSports and they're a solid unit. Only 400 miles or so on them but, no noise or anything yet. Also, I don't know about the Helix's but the HSport's have replaceable bearings... definitely a plus.

[simplygriff]

So on the arms...

Originally Posted by H-Sport

The Links themselves are made up of two tubular steel outer arms with a billet aluminum hex center. The polyurethane bushings can be greased by utilizing the zerk fittings at each end.

Originally Posted by Helix

The control arms are constructed of 6061 heat-treated aluminum for incredible strength and use premium Teflon-lined heim joints for long-lasting durability. With no rubber bushings, there is no mushy "give" under hard cornering.

Is there much difference in these I'm not seeing? Remember, I'm a noob at all this...
-G

[Slow Paul]

Heim joint vs. Poly Bushing. I'm a fan of the heim joint myself. NO NOISE. At all. Not ONE bit.