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Old 05-07-2008, 03:58 PM
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I'm planning on getting some coilovers (KW v1's) soon and I'm thinking about what I gotta do for front and rear camber. I've been looking at the H-Sport vs. Helix front plates as well as the H-Sport vs. Helix control arms. Anyone know any major differences between these? My car will be street only so I prefer quiet and streetable. I've heard some control arms can be squeaky and I'm trying to avoid that. Any help or suggestions would be great. Thanks in advance!
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:01 PM
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I have the Helix plates and Helix arms. No weird noises coming from anywhere on my Cooper. As for differences between the plates I dunno, but I can attest to the quality of teh helix plates, they're beefy as all get out!!!
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:09 PM
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I think the main difference between the Helix and the HSports is the color.
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I would go for the H-Sport camber plates. I have the Helix (back when they were RDR), and the bearing assembly is tall as hell. As a result, you will either raise your ride height up front (if you have springs), or lose a bunch of suspension stroke (if you have coilovers). Donno if they've changed this or not, but that's how mine are.
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Hmmm... That's good to know Ivan. Paul did you have any issues with that with your Helix's?
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They rasied my car up a hair, nothing noticable, my dad measured before and after. it wasn't even close to 1/4 inch. I also don't feel like I've lost any suspension stroke. So I guess they've fixed the problem that you had/have Ivan.
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They rasied my car up a hair, nothing noticable, my dad measured before and after. it wasn't even close to 1/4 inch. I also don't feel like I've lost any suspension stroke. So I guess they've fixed the problem that you had/have Ivan.
Ahh, really? Damn. I lost like 1/2".
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that's something I'm concerned about as well. Rally mentioned that Ireland engineering has 2 camber plate options, one without the urethane bearing creating some xtra suspension travel, but it will be too rough on for street use. Is there anything "in between"?

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Old 05-07-2008, 04:46 PM
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Yeah you can hardly tell. I snaped some pic just now at work of my sexy camber, I'll post them up tonight at home. my car wasn't raised much at all.
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new school hsports here, no problems
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:56 PM
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I'd love some more opinions but it's starting to sound like 6 of 1 and a half dozen of the other... Might just come down to price or looks...
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I have HSports and they're a solid unit. Only 400 miles or so on them but, no noise or anything yet. Also, I don't know about the Helix's but the HSport's have replaceable bearings... definitely a plus.
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So on the arms...

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The Links themselves are made up of two tubular steel outer arms with a billet aluminum hex center. The polyurethane bushings can be greased by utilizing the zerk fittings at each end.
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The control arms are constructed of 6061 heat-treated aluminum for incredible strength and use premium Teflon-lined heim joints for long-lasting durability. With no rubber bushings, there is no mushy "give" under hard cornering.
Is there much difference in these I'm not seeing? Remember, I'm a noob at all this...
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:24 PM
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Heim joint vs. Poly Bushing. I'm a fan of the heim joint myself. NO NOISE. At all. Not ONE bit.
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