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Old 01-22-2009, 08:38 PM
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Default JCW Brakes vs. DetroitTuned Outlaw BBK

Any info on which is better..

JCW has 11.5" rotors and the DT has 12.8" Slotted rotors..
i dont really know much about the DT setup but my JCWs have been nothing but good
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:51 PM
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I have pushed my JCWs pretty hard at the track (with steel lines) and have not hit significant fade. There are a bunch of rotor upgrade options for the JCWs and more likely to come out, as they are identical to the stock R56 rotors.
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well i have the JCWs now, you think its a good swap to get the 12.8"s.. i can always upgrade to the new DT calipers too
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Just saying that I don't see any need to upgrade from the JCWs, but maybe you are a real track monster...?
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A few things to consider...

Caliper style :
JCW = floating
DT = solidly mounted

Pistons :
JCW = 1 piston
DT = 4 piston

Weight :
JCW = cast iron
DT = aluminum

DT pros :
Includes SS brake lines
Pads are less expensive
16" or 17" options

JCW pros :
Fits under more stock wheels
New pads are available (if you want a non-MINI upgrade)
SS brake lines are available if you'd like them, but at additional cost.

We're a house divided- Chad has the DT BBK on his car, I've got a JCW kit.
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my brake knowledge is limited but I always thought the calipers had to float haha. what is better about that?
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i cant say im a track MONSTER but i just like knowing that my brakes are there when i need them.. i might just go for a pad and rotor upgrade from Out..
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Check out MachV while your at it. It's not too far away. it's a good shop a good garage and a bunch of good guys.

http://www.fastmini.net/

they carry DBA "kangaroo Paw" rotors and hawk pads. I've got the JCW kit also, and I'm hoping that DBA comes out with slotted rotors for the fronts.
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thanks man, i need a local shop to put a new V2 pulley in
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my brake knowledge is limited but I always thought the calipers had to float haha. what is better about that?
What I gather is since the JCW only has one piston you have one pad that floats and the other is actually mounted or seated on the pot in the caliper. Where the DT has 2 pistons on both sides providing more solid mount or seat for both pads
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Or go for the new JCW's. Four piston, Brembo's .. should fit on gen 1 as well.
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Or go for the new JCW's. Four piston, Brembo's .. should fit on gen 1 as well.
I have heard yes and no on that but eh no one has really done it yet or has someone done it and no one knows. Need some confirmation on that one for sure.
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Or go for the new JCW's. Four piston, Brembo's .. should fit on gen 1 as well.
I would imagine those are $$$$ new, and I have yet to see any used sets emerge.
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I have heard yes and no on that but eh no one has really done it yet or has someone done it and no one knows. Need some confirmation on that one for sure.
I read on mini2 that some guys who had GPs had done it. Jan has a set that he was going to put on his GP too so I believe that they fit. If we can put R56 brakes on Kelli's, then these should not be a problem either as long as the rims clear. They do cost about $1600 though.
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Basically floating calipers allow for even brake force distribution in a single piston setup. (motorcycles use a floating rotor) What it does is allow a limited amount of centering to happen pad to rotor. more pistons usually means better pressure distribution across the pad.

single piston fixed<single piston floating<multi piston fixed<multi piston floating

what everyone is forgetting to mention is that a BBK is teh seks.
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