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Old 05-15-2009, 03:20 AM
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Yea, if you can put a rear bar on the Yaris, then try it. Hard to believe a car like that has none.
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My little Yaris is not really made to go around corners like the MINIs... It does what it's supposed to do, be inexpensive and get great mileage. Which it does. I only paid like $13k for it and I have been averaging 36 even when I beat on it... with my best at 38.6 MPG. It does handle ok, just no where near a MINI. Rear sway is like $280 from TRD so it's a cheap fix too.

I WILL have a MINI again someday, just gotta let the economy work itself out.
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just sway bars alone wont create amazing handling though

my crx didnt come with one either
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Don't do it Paul! Bigger isn't always better.
Bigger front bars make MINI's handle worse.
People often make this costly mistake on suspension tuning. Your car is really asking you for stiffer front springs. (maybe rears too.)
A bigger front bar will lift your inside wheel in the turn and cause ill handling & much more wheel spin coming off the turn.
QFT, go smaller in the rear.
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QFT, go smaller in the rear.
thought he was saying go small in the front
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just sway bars alone wont create amazing handling though

my crx didnt come with one either
Yaaa, I know Justin, I'm just looking for better than nothing!
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Yaaa, I know Justin, I'm just looking for better than nothing!
it will definately be better than nothing. what doesnt the yaris do that the mini does which you are fond of
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I get a ton of body roll. I know, I know, get real springs... while I may be able to swing $300 for a bar, no way I can afford new springs and stuff.
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At an autocross, one of the guys had a 3-door Yaris and put a set of RA1 from their Miata on it. So many people, including me, had a blast driving that silly car.

Lift throttle oversteer like a mo-fo!

It was a leased car, and I'm pretty sure there were no mods done to it. So... I really don't think the Yaris needs a rear sway. Just drive the crap out of it.
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Old 05-15-2009, 12:36 PM
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Paul,

Check the bushings - everywhere. At around 100k, something is bound to be sloppy, which will make the handling lose its edge.

On my Cooper, it was the front control arm bushings that gave out. With the crappy bushings, when the car was pushed really hard on the track or autocross, it got crazy loose. I spun multiple times autocrossing and once at the track before I finally took it to a garage and they found the shot bushings. Replace those, and all was good again.

So, before looking at new parts, have someone make sure there aren't any old parts that are in need of replacement.
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Paul you might want to talk to "Chadtoolio" also, he's a local guy that just left Hendrick here in Charleston after 10yrs to open his own shop ( some of you met him at the Dragon this year). He races autoX here, in SM class, and consistently beats the crap outta BMWs, EVOs, etc that have a whooooole lot more horsepower. I'm pretty sure he has changed his front swaybar, but no idea to what. He knows his MINIs ( as do ona, brown,canyon,...) and it can't hurt to see what he has to say also. Send him a PM on NAM ( I know, I told him to signup here!). He was always in the tech, and maintenance threads over there.
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Old 05-15-2009, 07:21 PM
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Sweet, I'll give him a PM on NAM.

Jason, I do need new control arm bushings. I'm so tempted to buy the Bav-Auto ones as they are on clearance for about $45.00 each...... Once that job is done, I figure a ton, if not most of the slop will be gone.
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Old 05-15-2009, 07:54 PM
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I don't know what to tell you in terms of advice, Paul...

Is there a balance (oversteer / understeer) issue you are trying to resolve? Or is it just that the car feels like it has lost it's edge?

If there's no balance issue, don't start looking at swaybars at all.

Get those front control arm bushings replaced, and check the other bushings - rear control arms, rear trailing arm, strut mounts, tie rod ends... I think that's all the places that connect the suspension to the car.

Possibly check to see if the Bilsteins are still happy.

Once everything checks out, alignment would be the next place to look.

Like I said, start by making sure the parts that are on the car are in good working order, not adding new parts.

If Bruiser had "edge" before and doesn't know, it's not because you need a new front swaybar.
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I more of a loss of edge. More and more I'm thinking I just need to replace all my tired bushings.
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I'd definitely do that before the swaybar; there was an immense difference in the feel after I did mine with the Powerflex ones.
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