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Old 05-03-2006, 12:12 AM
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Question What fluid do you push?

So I bit the bullet and exposed the credit card to some abuse by ordering front brake parts from StopTech. No, not the big brake kit... Just the StopTech stock slotted rotor replacements, Hawk HPS Ceramic pads, and stainless lines. Enough to survive the occassional track day and fun street driving.

Obviously I'll need to flow new fluid through my 'Coops veins to get a new grip on the setup so I wondered what brake fluid folks use with good success these days.
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Old 05-03-2006, 12:30 AM
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ATE Super Blue is usually good enough.

If that's not enough (which it hasn't been for me on a few occasions), you can step up to Motul RBF 600.
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Old 05-03-2006, 10:14 AM
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I have heard Ivan recommend ATE Super Blue a few times.
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Old 05-03-2006, 05:38 PM
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I've been happy with just SS lines and Super Blue for some time now. I'm about to do the same thing to my second Mini with JCW brakes. (I can't believe those things did not come with SS lines )
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Old 05-04-2006, 12:23 AM
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that the JCW kit does not include SS lines... For the $$$ one would think it should!
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:13 PM
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that the JCW kit does not include SS lines... For the $$$ one would think it should!
Well, apparently more then one . Just not any one at BMW/Mini.
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:19 PM
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If they don't include them in the kit, you are required to buy the JCW Super Works Brake Ultra-Mega Kit.... :p These include the lines for a modest price increase...
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:21 PM
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I have heard Ivan recommend ATE Super Blue a few times.
I'm using it now and I would highly recommend it as well. It's pretty cheap and is a definite must for track days, I haven't tried Motul but I'm sure they're about the same though.
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:26 PM
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I have the ate blue in mine also. I have the ireland big brake kit which uses the stock calipers and I have never had brake fade no matter how hard I am dogging the brakes.
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super blue
there is better if you want to pay like 100 bucks a bottle...but how much do you really notice driving around on the street anyway
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another cool thing about the blue is that they have a reddish one that is compatible so you can switch back and forth and you can tell when it's completley finished bleeding cuz the color will change
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another cool thing about the blue is that they have a reddish one that is compatible so you can switch back and forth and you can tell when it's completley finished bleeding cuz the color will change
that's awesome, i didn't know that
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Yeah, the non-blue stuff from ATE is called ATE Typ 200. It's got the exact same performance of ATE Super Blue, but just a different color for your bleeding convenience, as Brit said above.

I use ATE Super Blue, and I have yet to boil it, despite track time at Buttonwillow and some extended downhill canyon runs, while wearing aggressive Ferodo DS2500 pads.
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Wether or not Super Blue will be enough depends upon the track. My brakes never got close to hot at Lime Rock. At NHIS (New Hampshire International Speedway - a road course connected to a Nascar oval), I've had some fade / fluid problems at the very end of a 20 minute session. On the small go-kart track I sometimes run on (with the MINI), I can only make it through 4 or 5 laps before the brakes are done - 3/4 mile and 5 hard braking zones.
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