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Old 10-31-2006, 10:57 PM
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Hi all, I have debting if I should save up the doh and cough up and get coilover and do it right from the get-go. OR get springs/control arms and get minor performance out of my Bettie and have the same kind of fun. I have not have the chance to hit up any autox event or taken her to the track. I plan on doing that in the near future but as for now I usually drive through the canyons near by in the weekend. The choices I have been thinking about are the following.

Springs :

- HSport w/ Steve's phatty control arms

.: I worry about with the springs option is the ride quaility also in the long run with the stock struts :.

Coilover :

- KW Coilover V1 or V2
- Bilstein PSS9
- TEIN street
- Megan

Any input or feedback would be greatly appericated.
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:57 PM
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im thinkin that the PSS9s are a crowd fav over at MU, i think ray have megan... and he loves em(i think)
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:58 PM
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where are you MrBattle ? cant get on MSN at work ?
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Old 10-31-2006, 11:00 PM
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how low do you want to go?

Do you race or track your car?
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Old 10-31-2006, 11:05 PM
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I've been discussing my suspension options with Steve recently. I don't have the coilover $$$$, but my MCc is riding low on H-sports and the stock shocks are gone. While I've been lusting after some FSD's the height issue has been a concern. After talking to Steve he claims Bilstein shocks are designed to work with shorter springs. I am strongly leaning towards that set up. In the end it would give me the hodge podge suspension of H-Sport springs + Bilstein Shocks + H-Sport Rear Sway Bar + Steve's Lower Rear Control Arms + Ireland Adjustable Camber Plates.

I just realized that this is probably of no help to you, but hey, I am bored.
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Old 10-31-2006, 11:13 PM
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I have yet had the chance to get on the track. That is what I plan on doing and perhaps some auto x events as well. And as for how low I want to go... a good question, I want it as low with a decent ride quality that has the performance. I don’t want a bouncing ride that has the look and has minimum performance. I much rather have it ride good and the performance.
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Old 10-31-2006, 11:24 PM
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For coilovers, yes, the PSS9 is an m|u favorite, as are teh Megan Racing......both offer 32 different rate adjustments.........price-wise there are on EXPENSICE for the PSS9's (around 1900) to not that bad for the megans (about 1000) in the middle is KW (for the V2, at least.......) The V2 doesn't offer all the dampening rates as the megans or the PSS9's......

I am currently running Esplier springs and have been for almost three years....there a great spring.....I'm planing on going with an adjustable strut/shock combo....like Koni Yellow's......

The cool part about coil's is you have all this adjustability at your fingertips....but how often will you be willing to play with all the adjustments untill your happy......good luck with your decision....!!!!
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Old 10-31-2006, 11:28 PM
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I want it as low with a decent ride quality that has the performance. I don’t want a bouncing ride that has the look and has minimum performance. I much rather have it ride good and the performance.
Then IMO look into the PSS9's......there the best you can get.....hands down.....I'm sure you can get at least a couple m|u-er's to atest to there greatness!!!!
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Old 10-31-2006, 11:39 PM
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pss9 seems like a good way to go about - but I do agree the price tag on them make me rethink alittle. <sighs>
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I am surprised no one has mentioned the H&R Coilovers. You can pick these up for around $1000.
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Old 11-01-2006, 03:54 AM
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I will check them out thanks !

Ray - if you are out there... can you please fill me in on how you like your Megan coilover and perhaps how much you grab them for ? Thx
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Old 11-01-2006, 04:18 AM
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if you plan to autox the car, you should check the rules for the class you would want to compete in.

do you have any suspensions mods already?
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Old 11-01-2006, 04:22 AM
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I currently have the H-Sport Comp rear sway bar. but that is the only suspension mod I have atm. Also - has anyone tried with the John Cooper Works Sport Suspension Kit ? I know that it doesnt change the stance of the ride. But as for performance... does it help at all ? <shrugs> I do want to seal the gap abit between the tires and the fender but I am not entirly sure if I will become a track / auto x junkie yet...
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Old 11-01-2006, 05:44 AM
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well, with the rear sway bar you are already placed into the STX class with your Cooper S. Off of the top of my head I don't know the other cars that compete in this class, but any rear sway bar modification takes the Cooper S out of G-stock and into STX.

this is just for your reference, im sure you can go on the SCCA website and check what cars you would be competing with if you were to want to begin autoxing more.

I don't have any personal experience with the JCW suspension kit so I can't comment on that. If noone on here has tried it, you should check on NAM, someone on there has to have tried it.
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Old 11-01-2006, 05:45 AM
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why not go with a quality spring/shock set up if you will predominantly be doing street driving?
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