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Old 02-15-2007, 02:17 AM
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if you look around on the forums you'll notice that not many people run a larger bar in front unless their rear sway is really fat. i often questioned this myself... "do i need a stiffer front bar?" well, for our MINI's (be it an s or justacooper) a smaller bar up front will help you tone down the understeer.
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I think I am going to first play with the dampening and ride height and if that doesnt do than pulling the larger front bar will be the next step. It's kind of expensive to have done but I have mono right now so Im not about to try and tackle that.
I definetly understand how a smaller bar will get the front end to bite but that also means more body roll so I have to find a medium that works for me

I have a 25.5mm rear bar does that count as a really fat rear bar?

What if I found a huge rear bar like 28mm, hypothedically, wouldn't that work. It seems that their a good proportion of the front to rear bars that makes the car handle well, the stock front bar and a 19mm rear bar sounds good for a cooper. however it seems like that combo would make a flat enough car for me, so would proportionally huge bars make it handle the same execpt flatter. Granted the bars may have to get pretty big, but their seems to be room to grow under their and if you started using solid bars you could get more effective diameter. This is just a rant but its a decent idea, I dont know how plausible it is, and probably at that point I might as well just weld in solid axles and say goodbye to ride quality, but hey it would be fun around a turn, provided their are no bumps

How big is stock front bar for a cooper with SS?
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:28 AM
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me thinks too much hypothesizing before trial and error equates to too much unnecessary thinking

stock cooper front sway is 16mm.
you wanna get flatter? change the spring rates, throw the struts on 1, keep the front strut brace, get an LSD and you're good to go flat. awesome for the track, sh!te for autox and daily driving. but if that's what you want, then so be it
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me thinks too much hypothesizing before trial and error equates to too much unnecessary thinking
I tend to do that, but at school all I can do is think
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How big is stock front bar for a cooper with SS?
Front Sway Bar on the MINI One = 16mm
Front Sway Bar on the MINI Cooper with Sport Suspension = 22.5mm
Front Sway Bar on the MINI Cooper with Sport Suspension Plus (and the MCS) = 24mm
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Front Sway Bar on the MINI One = 16mm
Front Sway Bar on the MINI Cooper with Sport Suspension = 22.5mm
Front Sway Bar on the MINI Cooper with Sport Suspension Plus (and the MCS) = 24mm
Im pretty sure I have SS, I dont know what a SS Plus is so I don't think I have it. Even with a 22mm bar my 25mm rear sounds good, on soft
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