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Old 01-10-2008, 09:02 PM
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Default brake pads??

anyone ever use these? how do u like them?

Hawk Performance Ceramic Front Pads
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:08 PM
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bought these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HAWK-...2em118Q2el1247


love em'
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:24 PM
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Kal the Hawk's you posted are a OE replacement pad, so you'll get OE performance outta them. BUT they are ceramic, so they wont last as long. The trade off is virtually NO noise and very little dust, but I would try and take them on a spirited canyon run. The ones Konky posted (Hawk HPS) are a lot better. Hawk is a good brand. I've run the HP+ (one step above the HPS) and been nothing but satisfied with them even though they squel like hell due to the metallic compound and they are mainly ment for auto x events....
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:37 PM
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this is what im lookin for in brake pads...stops well, not a lot of squeal, and last long...

these pads will be used as a DD w/ some occasion runs to the canyons..

what options do i have??
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:40 PM
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HAWK HPS is prolly your best choice. as long as they are installed correctly they'll last a long time and won't squek.
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HAWK HPS is prolly your best choice. as long as they are installed correctly they'll last a long time and won't squek.
the link that konky posted... will they fit '06 too...or just '02-'04?
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All R50/53 WITHOUT JCW brakes.
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:50 PM
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so they will fit...


also are calipers/brakes from '02-'06 the same on the R53? i know that the brake lines are different though..
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:58 PM
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There was a brake line change in mid 2002. All the calipers on 1 Gen MINI's are the same, except JCW...
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:32 PM
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:21 AM
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Running the Hawk HPS's and love 'em too!
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:34 AM
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I'm a big fan of Hawk HPS also.

Compared to Porterfield R4-S:

Hawk HPS are cheaper
Neither makes noise, about the same dust level
Hawks might have a little brown-er dust while the Porterfields might have a little black-er dust
Porterfields go off gradually under track level heat, so you are constantly adjusting braking points
Hawks go off suddenly under track level heat, so they're great for a long time, then you get a little warning smell, then they're gone

I actually prefer the way the Hawks deal with heat. As long as you realize that you're about to have no brakes left and cool them off instead of continuing on, they're very predictable on the track. The Porterfields required different braking points every couple of laps.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:39 AM
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thanks for all the info... i just ordered a set of the Hawks HPS..
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Hps was what i was going to get but got the ceramic's due to the very very low brake dust out out


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I had Hawk HPS on my MCS for a few months and they were almost dust free but had little initial bite and required a lot of pressure to get the ABS to kick in. I'm trying to recall whether I could even make them get the ABS to activate. I switched to Ferrodo DS2500 and absolutely love their stopping power. They have a little more brake dust than the HPS but less than stock. A slight squeal now and then, but who cares. I really like their improved performance on my stock brake system.
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