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Old 04-29-2013, 02:14 PM
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Question What's the scoop on scoops (M7 vortex, etc.)?

I've seen a few pics of the modified air scoops on the R53 like the M7 vortex and was wondering: are these purely aesthetic or are they actually functional, i.e., do they increase the amount of air shoveled into the intercooler? Any positive impact on performance?

I like the look of the extended upper lip of these scoops but wanna be clear if I'm getting form, function, or both.

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Old 04-29-2013, 05:37 PM
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Generally they pull in more air, but also create extra drag that offsets shown gains. IMO, if you add one then do it because you like the look. Any performance gained is just a plus.

BTW, there is a nicely done test that a MINI owner did that showed the best setup he found. I'll add the link when I can (and if I can still find it).
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:48 PM
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I replaced my melty hood scoop just so it wouldn't look gross and warped but I took the opportunity to get an M7 carbon fiber Vortex 2 scoop because it wouldn't melt and really because it looks cool- I'd just bought my car and wanted to make it feel like it was mine by putting my stamp on it. A nice side benefit is that I can hear my turbo blow off a little louder. I don't have any illusions of huge performance gains, but it can't hurt to keep temps a little lower in the engine bay. I'm curious about the drag now that you mention it, but it's not like a Mini is the most aerodynamic thing out there anyway.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:26 PM
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Thanks to both of you for the replies. My hunch was that this would be mostly for the looks, which I like. Speaking of which, I think i saw a pic of your car ElderHatesman, which is what got me thinking...
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I can't reach his original web page on the subject, but browse his old NAM threads that have the same info:

http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...erter-alt.html
http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...erter-alt.html

BTW, the guy posting in those threads as JS is Joel, the designer of the original M7 scoop and the JSart wing extensions.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:14 PM
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From what I've read some scoops do produce more wind noise at highway speeds.
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I can't say that I've noticed, and I've got a Vortex 2 on my R56. I'd imagine if one is going to make noise, that would be it. Maybe other scoops or other models, but mine seems fine.
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I used the first M7 scoop on my '03. I modified it a bit to open it up a good amount. Tracked the car all the time and I will say that there were absolutely benefits to the IC temps making the car a bit quicker, and I would say that there was little to no real added drag. I loved it.

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so is M7 the only place offering scoops?
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I'm using the M7 Ram Air, less extreme than the M7 "Extreme" Think that's what your showing Greg? But regardless of whatever scoop you use, you should always tailor your scoop, diverter, to your specific use. I customized my scoop, IC diverter to close up the gaps has much as possible BTW, I use the M7 Ram Air and the GP intercooler, with the factory GP diverter. But as said, modified it.
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I used the first M7 scoop on my '03. I modified it a bit to open it up a good amount. Tracked the car all the time and I will say that there were absolutely benefits to the IC temps making the car a bit quicker, and I would say that there was little to no real added drag. I loved it.

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