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Old 08-29-2008, 04:40 PM
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My Computer > right click > select Manage > select Disk Management under the Storage option > Find desired device > right click > select Change Drive Letter and Paths > do it...

Alternately, buy a Mac...
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My Computer > right click > select Manage > select Disk Management under the Storage option > Find desired device > right click > select Change Drive Letter and Paths > do it...

Alternately, buy a Mac...

See That's what I was looking for LOL!

I fixed it last night but thanks everyone
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Alternately, put the training wheels back on...
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ROFL I gots no spare money for a Mac son.
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I'm illiterate to macs so I'd like to know, how do they label drives?
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I'm illiterate to macs so I'd like to know, how do they label drives?
You label the drive, like you do in Windows... but it just reads the volume name from the drive instead of assigning some arbitray letter to it. I wish they would just make all of Windows work with names instead of stupid drive letters.

Oh, and Linux does the volume names as well...

damn, I need spell check and this piece of crap windows browser at work here has none and won't let me install one!
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So the fact that I have three drives simply labeled music means that if I had a Mac I'd be royally screwed the first time I tried to use all my drives at once.

I don't see the big deal with letters. For 90% of what I do the drive letters don't matter and the alphabet's typically not too complex for most people.
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So the fact that I have three drives simply labeled music means that if I had a Mac I'd be royally screwed the first time I tried to use all my drives at once.

I don't see the big deal with letters. For 90% of what I do the drive letters don't matter and the alphabet's typically not too complex for most people.
Unless you remove yours drive frequently and do not connect them in the exact same sequence. If you do, your fine! other wise you get to play with the alphabet some.

I mean come on, I'm not a hater... I value some aspects of Windows, I just prefer to use Ubuntu, and If I could afford a Mac I'd have one of them too!
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it's all semantics. I dont have any issue with the drive letter thing either. But I can see where someone who is less savvy would have an issue.

for instance if your steering wheel and pedals moved around the car everytime you got in it... or not evertime but sometimes. That would be really difficult for some people. Where others, no biggie.

Some people cant drive RHD, I find it not only easy, but really fun!

I do agree with Ivan too. Most monkeys I mean people NEED training wheels. Hell 90% of the them driving cars shouldnt be on the road, let alone be able to operate a computer.
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I'm illiterate to macs so I'd like to know, how do they label drives?
Crap - I knew somebody would ask that... Erg. Suffice to say OS X is a flavor of Unix (BSD) and things work a bit different under the covers than Windows (which still persists with using some DOS tainted conventions). Naming in *nix is a bit arcane to experienced Windows users, but it is pretty easy overall. Generically speaking, *nix identifies by device , doesn't use drive names like a: or c:, and everything is attached to root directory which is called /.

Specific to the Mac, here is the official Apple nerd speak on how they present drives:

The file system is an important part of any operating system. After all, it’s where users keep their stuff. In Mac OS X, the organization of the file system plays an important role in helping the user find files. The organization also makes it easier for applications and the system itself to find the resources they need to support the user.

The file system in Mac OS X has at its core a set of directories inherited from the Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD) operating system. While most of these directories are actually hidden by the Finder, many elements of the BSD world are still apparent. The file permissions model, symbolic links, and user home directories are all concepts inherited from BSD. Mac OS X also adds many of its own concepts to provide the user with a secure and elegant environment for managing files and folders.

The Mac OS X file system was designed to provide power and flexibility while maintaining the traditional ease-of-use users expect. To this end, the file system provides users with a consistent structure that makes it clear where resources are located. (This consistency also helps developers, whose applications need to know where important resources are located.) Other file system conventions, such as aliases, extension hiding, and display names also enhance the user experience.
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So the fact that I have three drives simply labeled music means that if I had a Mac I'd be royally screwed the first time I tried to use all my drives at once.

I don't see the big deal with letters. For 90% of what I do the drive letters don't matter and the alphabet's typically not too complex for most people.
No - the label is not a dependency in the OS (like right now I actually have two drives named the same thing on my system). Comes down to position and bus. However, some programs may fubar depending on how well written they are/aren't when two identical labels show up...
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No - the label is not a dependency in the OS (like right now I actually have two drives named the same thing on my system). Comes down to position and bus. However, some programs may fubar depending on how well written they are/aren't when two identical labels show up...
That just confuses me again, maybe I'll just have to go play with my porn at the Apple store once.
So basically Macs make you name your drives (like you can do in Windows but don't have to do) but if mulitple drives do the same thing it's OK since the OS really just reads some other parameter of the drive which isn't too different than what Windows is doing when it says F or E drive......
The more I find out about Macs the more I'm convinced they work exactly the same as a PC except for some key differences which are really more different for the sake of being different.

Oh and Tuls, I'd really like a car where the steering wheel can move, the latest Unimog has this very feature available! The only thing I struggle with on RHD is the turn signal/windshield washer thing and when I'm not paying attention my right had hits the door trying to find a shifter.
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That just confuses me again, maybe I'll just have to go play with my porn at the Apple store once.
So basically Macs make you name your drives (like you can do in Windows but don't have to do) but if mulitple drives do the same thing it's OK since the OS really just reads some other parameter of the drive which isn't too different than what Windows is doing when it says F or E drive......
The more I find out about Macs the more I'm convinced they work exactly the same as a PC except for some key differences which are really more different for the sake of being different.
Windows has a dependency on the drive letter, OS X (or *nix in general) does not. You can't have two "E:" drives in Windows. And that is indeed a carry over to MS-DOS days. In Windows if you have a D: partition that moves to E: through a system change then software breaks because it has that dependency for items relying on what was D:. Not so in OS X (provided the software isn't poorly written - which is a rare occurrence, one has to work pretty hard to screw up that aspect of programming in *nix).

Windows will have some similarities to *nix as some of the core features in Windows (nee MS-DOS) are a direct replication of the features from *nix (which was in use before MS-DOS) and are often the subject of hatred/puns from *nix lovers. However in terms of real evolution, functionality, security, and maturity, *nix really is leagues ahead of MS-DOS.

In terms of wrappers or shells that give the GUI access to the underpinnings of the OS, Windows struggles to handle the awkward spots of MS-DOS. MS really needs to abandon and move away from ASAP. The legacy reliance on MS-DOS is part of what makes Vista so annoying to use. MS would be wise to dump the underpinnings of MS-DOS and make an emulation layer for legacy apps like OS X does to allow forward development. I hope we finally get to see this come to life in "Windows 7".

Anyway - there are some similarities but there far more differences in the two worlds...
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Some people cant drive RHD, I find it not only easy, but really fun!
me too...bizarrely enough
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Really basic summary of how it works:

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/dev/hd0 --> /
/dev/hd1 --> /seconddrive/
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multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(0) --> C:\
multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(0) --> D:\
Basically, in Unix, drives are mounted as directories. If I remember correctly (it's been yeaaars since I touched Linux or BSD), the first disk is mounted as root (and contains all the system files and user directories), then subsequent disks are mounted as subfolders. I'm not at all sure how OSX handles labeling, but it's probably similar to volume labels in Windows, which can be identical. Macs like to dump hidden files to handle higher level properties (._) for files, so I'm sure it does something similar for drives. Just as you can remount the second disk to a different folder in Unix, you can remount the second disk to a different drive letter in Windows.
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