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Old 01-16-2006, 08:09 PM
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Bad news and good news, my friends.

First, the bad. I took a fast left-hander onto the freeway this morning, and moments later, a *fsk fsk fsk fsk fsk fsk* sound began emanating from my left front wheel well. At first, I thought it was probably another car on the freeway next to me, but when it became very loud and correlated with my speed, I decided to pull off of the freeway. My wafer-thin rubber had finally given up, and my spirited cornering performance took the tire beyond the cords, exposing the metal belts therein.

More bad news: I don't live with the folks anymore, so the reality behind 220 treadwear rubber and my insatiable appetite for cornering aggressively at every opportunity has finally slapped me in the face. I can't afford two tires every two months anymore, so the time has come to stray from my beloved Kumho Ecsta MX and try something with a bit more longevity.

I've been researching it since I put my last pair of Ecsta MX's on, and I finally came to the conclusion that I would give the BFGoodrich g-Force Sport a go. I don't think they're as sticky as my other contender, the Kumho Ecsta SPT, but from what I've read, they have a stiffer sidewall that should serve to complement my current suspension setup. Who knows, perhaps carcass construction will make up for the less aggressive rubber formulation.

Does anyone have any experience with these tires? Ian from SCMM used to swear by them, even running them at the track, despite their lofty 340 treadwear rating, so I figured I'd give them a shot.

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Old 01-16-2006, 08:58 PM
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Huh... Whadyaknow... That's what I have...

I took those off my RSX before I traded it for the MINI. and now they're on the mini. I can't really compare them to much besides the Pirelli Euphoria runflats. They're definately more comfortable than the rf's. They have about the same road noise as the rf's. I do not have any hard cornering experience with them yet though. I like them so far. I've had them on for a week.
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Old 01-16-2006, 09:28 PM
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I just put these on:

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Falken Ziex Ze 512's

360 Treadwear
215/45R17
19.8Lbs.

$73 Per tire

"The Falken Ziex 512 received first place in a comparison test done by a leading consumer magazine. One of our best sellers due to its high treadwear (360), 30,000 mile warranty, all-season capability and great value. The Ziex 512 also helps reduce un-sprung weight due to its lightness."

"We suggest this tire if you are looking for:
Good treadlife without sacrificing much performance
A set of tires to have all year round (decent snow/ice traction)"

The reason I got them, was cause we actually do get snow here! and they're cheap, with a high tread wear rating. Summer tires are gonna be a different story though.
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Old 01-16-2006, 09:30 PM
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for good prices, i recommend edgeracing.com

pretty fast shipping too!
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Old 01-16-2006, 10:27 PM
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get Potenza RE040 or 050A!
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Old 01-16-2006, 11:14 PM
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How do they compare price-wise to the Kumho Ecsta SPT?
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Old 01-16-2006, 11:33 PM
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What about the BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW 2? They have a little lower wear rating, but are also a few dollars less expensive than the g-Force Sports.
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Old 01-17-2006, 03:18 AM
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What about the BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW 2? They have a little lower wear rating, but are also a few dollars less expensive than the g-Force Sports.
In 205/40-17:

Kumho Ecsta SPT: $64
BFGoodrich g-Force Sport: $77
Dunlop SP Sport FM901: $78
Yokohama AVS ES100: $89
Kumho Ecsta MX: $100
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW 2: $109
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Old 01-17-2006, 03:43 AM
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Ah - I was looking at 205/45-17 on Tire Rack.

Kumho Ecsta SPT: $88
BFGoodrich g-Force Sport: $99
Dunlop SP Sport FM901: N/A
Yokohama AVS ES100: $99
Kumho Ecsta MX: N/A
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW 2: $95

There's also:

Yokohama Parada Spec-2: $96
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Old 01-17-2006, 04:03 AM
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Kumho Ecsta SPT: $88
Sidewalls are a little on the soft side, from what I've read, and I really like my sidewalls to be on the stiffer (read: bumpier and noisier) side of the spectrum.

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BFGoodrich g-Force Sport: $99
See first post.

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Dunlop SP Sport FM901: N/A
From what I've read and heard from others who've used this tire, the sidewalls are incredibly soft. More of a Grand Touring tire (very popular on BMW's, for example), than a sports tire.

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Yokohama AVS ES100: $99
Considered this one, but I've heard tons of mixed results.

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Kumho Ecsta MX: N/A
Love 'em, but I can't afford 220 treadwear.

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BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW 2: $95
I've heard good things about these, but something tells me I'd roast through them relatively quickly, and they're not the cheapest tires.

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There's also:

Yokohama Parada Spec-2: $96
They look good, but from what I've heard, they're not quite up to snuff with even the Yokohama AVS ES100. A bit of a show tire.
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I just put these on:

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Falken Ziex Ze 512's
two words... Tread Squirm.
Great daily driver tire... not really good for agressive cornering.

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Kumho Ecsta SPT: $64
waiting for reviews from my friend on the new ecsta

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BFGoodrich g-Force Sport: $77
heard good reviews about this tire, stiff sidewall too, haven't driven a car with them yet so I wouldn't know much about the performance

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Dunlop SP Sport FM901: $78
Unless you like the sound of squealing pigs....
But they are pretty sticky b4 that breaking point.

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Yokohama AVS ES100: $89
they tend to get greasy after 4 laps at streets and greasy halfway down the backside of gmr. But the smell of melting Yokohama rubber is sweet.

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Kumho Ecsta MX: $100
they are the shiznit... enough said.

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BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW 2: $109
Where is randy? I've been meaning to ask him about this one. Wasn't he running this tire for a while?


Ivan you might want to check out the Ventus R-S2 Z212, my friend is running that one and supposedly it is comparable to the Azenis RT-615
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Yokohama Parada Spec-2: $96
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They look good, but from what I've heard, they're not quite up to snuff with even the Yokohama AVS ES100. A bit of a show tire.
I have to jump in on this one.

The paradas were great at streets... even when shaved down to this:
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They were awesome tires but for 300 treadware, they didn't last very long. probably a notch down from the azenis but with out the high temp grease factor.
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:50 PM
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Hmm... so would you say Yokohama Parada Spec 2 > Yokohama AVS ES100?
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Old 01-18-2006, 07:17 PM
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I really like my Toyo T1-Rs, though they haven't had the best reviews from what I've seen, and I guess they're in a different category and have a tread wear rating of 280.

What about the Proxes 4? Tread wear rating of 300...
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Hmm... so would you say Yokohama Parada Spec 2 > Yokohama AVS ES100?

from personal experiences, and my type of driving style, yes they are.

what I noticed was that the AVS had a harder compound and squealed like pigs in a gangbang going down the run. Infact, they get greasy and this tends to happen:

the guy in front was running the AVS ES100 with ~2k miles on it. This was when I had the track wheels on with the paradas. He was slipping all over the place as his tires warmed up. Mine on the other hand got more responsive and held better when they got hotter.
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