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Old 01-15-2009, 08:48 PM
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I bought an 08 Cooper S over the summer which I said I'd never mod...

So where should I start modding?

I'm holding off on wheel/tires for the moment.

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Old 01-15-2009, 08:55 PM
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I usually start with the thing that I think is the most pressing need for change. Is something not performing to your expectations? Do that first, be it suspension,power, appearance, or comfort.
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:01 PM
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looks are last in line. I'm not focused on things that in many cases only add weight to the car.

I'd like to look at power gains first.

What are reliable paths to HP gains?
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:11 PM
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depends on ur type of driving, in curvy roads, suspension will help you go faster than just hp mods
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:12 PM
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I'd suggest planning out your mod's as far as possible. Try to include anything you ever foresee doing. A mod you make today can impact another one in the future. The other nice thing is that you can budget them out which may influence your priority.
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:25 PM
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Well, this is a commuter car... The average speed on the computer is in the 30's over a 1 month period. I get to go hog wild on On-Ramps and freeway connectors. It's the sad reality of commuter driving in L.A.

I've modded my cars over the years - chips, intakes, exhausts, headers, dual carbs, magnetos, shift kits, etc - but this is my first turbo. I've got no idea as to what a reasonable HP number w/ reliability is. I've stuck to mostly German cars till now.

No info on BOVs or IC upgrade paths or tangible benefits.

I'm open to pretty much anything that will perform solidly (ie heads, injectors, cat upgrades, etc) as long as we're talking about significant changes.

My long road strat would really be based on a reliability factor.

I know I can do a lot w/ a compressed car but I really don't want to add another worry to my driving conditions.

So what's the most reliable significant upgrade I can make - or is modding this car not really worth while?
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:39 PM
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The direct injection, turbo sizing & locked down ECU make it a difficult car to mod at the moment. Your money is best spent for now on the other areas you mentioned.
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:49 PM
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locked down ECU... oh joy

Any piggy back systems or flash upgrades being developed?

I've done the exhaust upgrades in the past that only really sound significantly different. From friend's experiences I've noticed that IC upgrades are only really helpfull if you're increasing the size of your Turbo.

The car is a llot of fun to drive ATM and maybe I'll just have to wait till someone comes up with some significant mods..
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If you want significant chages, start with handling mods like suspension and brakes.

If it's available on your side of the pond, you might want to take a look at the rear silencer of the R56 JohnCooperWorks. Around here it's a proverbial good bang for the buck.
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:57 PM
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suspension can always be fun
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Old 01-15-2009, 11:14 PM
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locked down ECU... oh joy

Any piggy back systems or flash upgrades being developed?

I've done the exhaust upgrades in the past that only really sound significantly different. From friend's experiences I've noticed that IC upgrades are only really helpfull if you're increasing the size of your Turbo.

The car is a llot of fun to drive ATM and maybe I'll just have to wait till someone comes up with some significant mods..
GIAC has a flash available & Dimsport is supposed to have software for it soon. Unichip makes a piggyback, but it's not too well thought of. Others are supposedly working on solutions, but not many results yet. There is a Euro/UK tuner that has something going too, but I haven't seen it available in the USA yet.

Honestly, the dealer installed JCW tuning kit is still your best bet if you want a solution that includes tuning or just wait until the aftermarket catches up. Sadly, the MINI market hasn't had the volume to attract bigger tuners with deeper pockets yet.

Several good exhausts & downpipes are available, as well as several intercoolers (Helix, Forge, Alta). There are other bits like intakes & such, but it's all still pretty limited. If you still really want tuneability, grab a 1st gen MINI instead.
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There's always VHP mods.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:56 PM
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GIAC has a flash available & Dimsport is supposed to have software for it soon. Unichip makes a piggyback, but it's not too well thought of. Others are supposedly working on solutions, but not many results yet. There is a Euro/UK tuner that has something going too, but I haven't seen it available in the USA yet.

Honestly, the dealer installed JCW tuning kit is still your best bet if you want a solution that includes tuning or just wait until the aftermarket catches up. Sadly, the MINI market hasn't had the volume to attract bigger tuners with deeper pockets yet.

Several good exhausts & downpipes are available, as well as several intercoolers (Helix, Forge, Alta). There are other bits like intakes & such, but it's all still pretty limited. If you still really want tuneability, grab a 1st gen MINI instead.
Anyone know where I can get info on the JCW Tuning Kit online?

And thanks for the helpful 411 to everyone.
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http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/08/...press-release/
http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/09/...cw-engine-kit/

Lots more info: http://www.motoringfile.com/index.php?s=jcw+tuning+kit
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Old 01-16-2009, 10:29 PM
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Is there a short shift kit available for the R56?
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